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, he watched as a close advisor and close friend, john paul ii, in his last years as pope, and he saw not only the angst that john paul ii went through during that time of suffering, but he also saw how the vatican works when there's a pope that's not able to at his full capacity to do his job. something he obviously had in mind in the past that he could do it. it's very surprising he did. >>steve: father jonathan are you suggesting that the pope saw pope john paul ii in his declining years and said the people of the catholic community need a pope who's at 100% or as close to it as possible, so if i ever get to that stage i'm going to call it quits, and that's what he's doing? >> you know, it seems that that is a big part of his decision. we know how close he was to john paul ii. keep in mind, though, the pope is not a manager. this is why it's so shocking. the pope is not first and foremost the manager. he's the defender of the faith, protecting or guarding the teaching of the church and of the gospel. so you don't need somebody who is a stellar manager at his full capacity necessari
. >> steve: sure. peter, the thing is, people really loved pope john paul ii. he really energized people and he was pope for decades. the next pope probably will sit fo well. the church had public relations problems. they need a guy, if not dolan, a charismatic guy like him. >> church. the church has had public relations problems and a lot of the people in the left wing and even main stream media have piled on at this juncture of the catholic church. i see as a time for renewal, excitement. not death clouding a new pope. a new pope being chosen out of many wonderful choices, including my dear friend, cardinal dolan. i don't have a vote, but i know a lot of americans are saying, wow, wouldn't that be a wonderful, wonderful thing? >> steve: that really would be. >> he embraces the world. >> steve: he's a great guy. he's been on the show a couple of times. thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> steve: if you can't pass it through congress, just ram it through congress. the president about to use another executive order. details coming up next. and he dreamed of playing soccer, even tho
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